{"id":4230,"date":"2012-07-17T08:03:41","date_gmt":"2012-07-17T08:03:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rudebaguette.com\/?p=4230"},"modified":"2019-04-26T15:19:41","modified_gmt":"2019-04-26T13:19:41","slug":"return-of-the-google-tax","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rudebaguette.com\/en\/2012\/07\/return-of-the-google-tax\/","title":{"rendered":"Return of the French Google Tax: New Government, Same Nonsense"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rudebaguette.com\/2012\/07\/17\/return-of-the-google-tax\/departures-airport-tax-havens-370x229-2\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4245\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-4245\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rudebaguette.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/departures-airport-tax-havens-370x2291.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"250\" height=\"155\" \/><\/a>France is now saying it will enforce what&#8217;s been dubbed the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lemonde.fr\/economie\/article\/2012\/07\/12\/le-gouvernement-veut-faire-payer-plus-d-impots-a-google-amazon-ou-apple_1732563_3234.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8220;Google Tax&#8221; [FR]<\/a>, a sort of customs tariff on web products and services sold from anywhere outside of France.<br \/>\nPrevious governments <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/technology\/pda\/2010\/dec\/16\/google-tax-france\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">have tried coming up with a way to apply VAT<\/a> on digital purchases from foreign companies, from a song on iTunes or an ebook on Amazon, to a Google ad. Since these are cross-border transaction, and since the tax would only apply to customers in France, the government wouldn&#8217;t be really taxing Google or Amazon, headquartered abroad. Instead, their French customers will pay. This Google tax is actually a digital sales tax.<br \/>\nRules on sales tax, or VAT as it&#8217;s called here, are a EU matter. EU members agreed that VAT, currently paid to the state in which the merchant is, will be paid instead to the state where the buyer is, starting 2019. That&#8217;s boring until you realize that if the French government was to introduce a Google tax before that, French consumers would end up paying twice, both the Google tax in France and the VAT.<\/p>\n<h1>An opportunity to hinder businesses too<\/h1>\n<p>But consumers aren&#8217;t the only ones who get the stick. For businesses, under the guise of balancing competition, it gets even more ridiculous. For example, this catch-all tax also ambitions to fight Goliath <a title=\"Amazon setting up shop in Burgundy\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rudebaguette.com\/2012\/06\/08\/amazon-burgundy\/\">Amazon<\/a> and protect our David French bookshops and businesses from unfair competition. This ambition translates into a reported study by policymakers around the concept of banning free delivery of items in order to force Amazon to charge for it. With <a href=\"http:\/\/www.codinghorror.com\/blog\/2012\/04\/books-bits-vs-atoms.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">ebooks on the rise<\/a>, the foresight here is simply breathtaking.<br \/>\nThis kind of policy making is symptomatic of trying to protect established businesses at the expense of emerging ones. Such policies offer a short-lived protection, but the ripple effect on local potential market disruptors is devastating. This doesn&#8217;t prevent outside competitors from outpacing local market players though, and soon <a href=\"http:\/\/www.apple.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Apple<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.fr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Google<\/a>, and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amazon<\/a> dominate the domestic market. And the government tries to pass a Google tax because it sees untaxed cash flows zipping by.<br \/>\nSo no, the Google tax will not do any good to the French economy. What&#8217;s more, while this keeps everyone busy, other initiatives that could actually foster entrepreneurship or growth aren&#8217;t pursued. Google, Apple, and Amazon weren&#8217;t born from tariffs, but from startups. So if <a title=\"Web2Day Wrap-Up \u2013 Fleur Pellerin, Collaborative Consumption, &amp; $22 Billion\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rudebaguette.com\/2012\/06\/04\/punching-above-weight-class\/\">digital economy Minister Pellerin<\/a> wants to do some good, she should work on enabling the startup ecosystem, including angels, VCs, and incubators. Then maybe, just maybe, we&#8217;ll have a Google in France some day.<\/p>\n<h1>Hypocritical context &#8211; A Wrap-Up<\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li>if you have a real problem with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/technology\/technology-news\/googles-3b-tax-haven-loophole-probed-20111018-1lu0v.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">tax dodging<\/a>, your problem is tax havens and EU policy, not Google. Also, you&#8217;re 5 years late, and counting.<\/li>\n<li>if you want to have cutting edge startups, it&#8217;s easier with a cutting edge environment, ie having 4G coverage and <a href=\"http:\/\/reflets.info\/ftth-et-thd-lenfumage-de-larcep-continue\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">real very high speed<\/a> internet could be nice. Invite <a href=\"http:\/\/www.googleventures.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Google Ventures<\/a> to visit.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>France is now saying it will enforce what&#8217;s been dubbed the &#8220;Google Tax&#8221; [FR], a sort of customs tariff on web products and services sold from anywhere outside of France. Previous governments have tried coming up with a way to apply VAT on digital purchases from foreign companies, from a song on iTunes or an<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":77,"featured_media":64814,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"subtitle":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[113],"tags":[7910,7911],"class_list":["post-4230","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-finance","tag-amazon-en-2","tag-tax-en-2"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rudebaguette.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4230","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rudebaguette.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rudebaguette.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rudebaguette.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/77"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rudebaguette.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4230"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.rudebaguette.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4230\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rudebaguette.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/64814"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rudebaguette.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4230"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rudebaguette.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4230"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rudebaguette.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4230"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}